Well today was friday and last working day of this week, to give final touches to our PT work me n sandy went to ONGC, after a gap of 15 days. We thought it is going to be a cake walk but no my guide Mr A.K. Gupta was all set to pour down his rage on our poor souls.Well i don't blame the guy he had evry reason n right to kick our A$$ but in the end i think he was way too kind. He helped us a lot today and gave us all the required material, now i think our report work will be done.
Then the big news Gupta came back and to follow our tradition we are again plannin to visit Lonavala and khandala only diff Linda and Sandy are goin to be the new additions . Chuza will be missing :( he is in kanpur and jeet is also back inhis hometown :(.
BUt still i guess this time it is going to eb more fun and masti.
Current MOOD : sleepy
Current Music : Bad medicine ..bon jovi
Saturday, July 23, 2005
Monday, July 18, 2005
Gimme a BREAK
First, Aishwarya files a complaint against Salman.
Next Vivek Oberoi claims to be her knight in shining armour and threatens Salman.
Then comes the disgusting MidDay carrying pictures of Kareena and Shahid smooching before the release of their movie together.
Then the worst sting operation on a person who hardly represents the film industry Shakti Kapoor he became a victim to the so called DARING JOURNALISM.
Then there comes the MMS scandal of Ashmit Patel and Riya sen.
Then comes a series of MMS scandals including Ms. Mallika Sherawat who after all her ‘titillating act’ suddenly goes very ‘coy’.
Okay, so what’s the latest publicity stunt??
The release of the Salman –Aishwarya telephonic conversation.
After four years the police suddenly decided to release the recorded telephonic conversations between Salman and Aishwarya stating it carries Salman’s confession about having connections with the underworld. Well, listen to the tape there is more of verbal abuse and unnecessary boasting of sexual conquest. The police also releases the tape after 4 years can u smell something?? Yes I can these are cheap publicity stunts
So a drunk boyfriend who is also a actor calls his girlfriend who is also an actress and abuses her, boasts about his conquests and accuses her of sleeping around. Do i really care?? AISHWARYA rai loved someone and it didn't work out.
We all read gossips and enjoy it but are these really gossips this is breach of smone's privacy.
Do I really care?
Do I care who Salman bashed up or who Aishwarya slept with?
Somebody… Somebody please explain to me how reading a personal phone conversation between Sallu and Aish going to increase my IQ? Who does it benefit.. definitely not me! PLEASE, I am NOT interested in knowing about anybody’s personal life.
It’s all a publicity stunt for HT to increase sales and to increase Salman and Aishwarya’s PR ratings. Same allegations were made on tht Riya sen's MMS clip.The stiff competition in todays world forces people to get out of the way to snatch an extra edge over others.
Thursday, July 14, 2005
Top Ten Bollywood Comedies ( MY picks)
Movies are considered as one of the best recreation resource
known to man. We all grew up watching our stars on the silverscreen and
this silverscreen has shown us all kinds of wmotions feelings. Here is
my list of the Top ten hindi movie comedies of all time
GOLMAAL(1979) one of the
classic tale of fake twin brothers ram prasad and dashrath prasad Amol
Palekar playing the duo role one of the honest and hard working Clerk
and the other part as the carefree so called "Modern" guy.Utpal dutt
givin a performance of life time making the movie memorable.
Bombay TO GOA (1972) A
classic comedy by the king of of comedy himself MEHMOOD. BOmbay to Goa
is a movie about a bus trip from Bombay to Goa and how the events
unfold on the way. AMitabh bachan's few of early movies
the movie is a pack of comedians and from first shot to last cut the
movie makes u roll on the floor.With songs like "DEkha na " the movie
catches your attention your thrill and keeps you involved for the whole
duration
PADOSAN(1968) Great
teaming up of Kishore KUmar Sunil Dutt Om Prakash and MEHMOOD yes this
movie defines pure humor. BHOLA (Sunil dutt) plays the yound chap who
falls in love with his next door neighbour (padosan) BINDU (Saira
Banu) but he is unable to express his love for the girl so he tries to
impress her by the singing skills of his friend and GURU (Kishore Kumar
) the only problem in the way is Master ji (MEhmood) and this leads to
a fight for BINDU in which BHolas wins in the end . Where songs like "
ek chatur naar " meri pyari bindu " gave a new touch to comic songs
then songs like " Meri samne wali " and "Kehna hai' took melody to new
heights . A true classic and timeless comedy.
Andaz APna Apna (1994) a
manic ride with two useless dreamers from small towns Amar( amir) and
Prem(salman), they both want to marry a rich foreign return girl
Raveena ( raveena tandon) they both try to impress her and outdo each
other karishma plays ravina's frnd and there is Paresh Rawal palying
the double role of Teza Seth and Bajaj . Shakti Kapoor playing the
ultimate Crime <Mastrer GOGo . the movie is full of geek activities
salman khan saying "oyee ma" and Amir "Hai la " the movie is fun
ride absolutely brilliant.
Jaane Bhi do YAARON( 1983) Packed with some
of the best actors of Indian film industry many of them coming straight
from the drama school. One of the best Dark Comedy of Bollywood.
This one hits the system ,It is a satire with Vinod
(Naseeruddin Shah) and Sudhir (Ravi Vaswani) as photographers in search
of work.
They get an assignment from the editor of a magazine called
�Khabardar�. They witness a murder and are dragged into the corrupt
real estate deals with politicians and bureaucrats. THe "MAHabharat's
play" scene are some of the most hillarious moments on indian
silverscreen.and yeah SAtish Shah def playing the best dead body role.
CHACHI 420 (1998)
This is Indian style of doing things and for the first time an indian
movie outshined an Hollywood movie. AN adaptation of Robbie william;s
Mrs Doubtfire this movie includes had the brigade of actors like Kamal
hasan playin the desperate father( jayprakash) who in his efforts to
stop his family from fallign apart starts baby sittin his own daughter
as CHachi .. things go fine but then Seth Durga Prasad (Amrish Puri) falls in love with chachi and then Jay's land lord Hari Bhai Paresh Rawal also falls in for Chachi.In the course of time CHachi also developes an enemy his father-in-law�s secretary (Om Puri). then there is endless cofusion and comedy to roll you off ur seat.
Chupke Chupke (1975)Dr. Parimal Tripathi
(Dharamendra) is a Botany professor who falls in love with Archana (Sharmila
Tagore). She thinks the world of her brother-in-law or
�jijjaji� Raghav (Om Prakash) as she calls him, thinking that he is one of the smartest guys around.Parimal decides to take him on with his comic Hindi (as
jijjaji
is a stickler for purity of language), impersonating as a driver. The plot thickens when he ropes in his friends Sukumar (Amitabh Bachchan), Prashant (Asrani) and Archana�s brother (David). He totally perplexes the poor old �jijjaji� with unheard of
words and phrases. He throws a bombshell when he elopes with Archana leaving
jijjaji and her sister completely
shocked and helpless. Meanwhile Sukumar posing as Dr. Parimal Tripathi falls in
love with Prashant�s sister (Jaya Bhaduri) adding another dimension to
this funfest. The highpoint of this comic caper is the perfect timing that
Dharamendra and Om Prakash share making their scenes a treat to watch. The
comedy is not in your face or slapstick instead its situational and
witty.
Hera Pheri 2000 One
of the biggest surprise excep paresh rawal Both AKshau Kumar and suneil
shetty were not considered as comedians but this movie defied all
speculations. Priyadarshan made a movie full of commotion and enuff
slapstick humor. Shyam (Sunil Shetty) and Raju
(Akshay Kumar) are paying guests at the
home of a generous garage owner, Baburao (Paresh Rawal). All three are
broke and
dream of becoming millionaires. Raju hatches a plot of rescuing the
kidnapped
granddaughter of a rich businessman and keeping the ransom. Things get
amusingly
chaotic when they get stuck between the kidnappers, the businessman and
the
police. Om Puri and Asrani play interesting cameos in the film. BAburao
played by paresh rawal is one of the greatest character portrayed in
Bollywood.
MUNNA BHAI M.B.B.S. (2003 )Sanjay Dutt plays Murli Prasad Sharma or Munna, a local
bhai turned fake doctor. His parents live in a village and think that their son
is as upright and respectable as them. He has made them believe that he is a
doctor. When they visit him, his transition from a bhai to a doctor makes you
roll with laughter.
Munna decides tht he wil become a real doctor and tries to fulfill his
parent's dreams but the problem in the way to success is Dr.
Asthana (Boman Irani) is brilliant as the hyper
doctor who believes in �laughter therapy' he is the person who in the
first place exposed Munna's mockery to his father (Sunil Dutt).
Munna gets help from his whole gang including hsi best frnd CIRCUIT(
arshad warsi ). then there is also a love angle going on between MUNNA
and the Doctor SApna( GAuri ) Best part of the movie are the scenes of
Dr Astahan and Munna . " MAMU" catching its way after the movie
known to man. We all grew up watching our stars on the silverscreen and
this silverscreen has shown us all kinds of wmotions feelings. Here is
my list of the Top ten hindi movie comedies of all time
GOLMAAL(1979) one of the
classic tale of fake twin brothers ram prasad and dashrath prasad Amol
Palekar playing the duo role one of the honest and hard working Clerk
and the other part as the carefree so called "Modern" guy.Utpal dutt
givin a performance of life time making the movie memorable.
Bombay TO GOA (1972) A
classic comedy by the king of of comedy himself MEHMOOD. BOmbay to Goa
is a movie about a bus trip from Bombay to Goa and how the events
unfold on the way. AMitabh bachan's few of early movies
the movie is a pack of comedians and from first shot to last cut the
movie makes u roll on the floor.With songs like "DEkha na " the movie
catches your attention your thrill and keeps you involved for the whole
duration
PADOSAN(1968) Great
teaming up of Kishore KUmar Sunil Dutt Om Prakash and MEHMOOD yes this
movie defines pure humor. BHOLA (Sunil dutt) plays the yound chap who
falls in love with his next door neighbour (padosan) BINDU (Saira
Banu) but he is unable to express his love for the girl so he tries to
impress her by the singing skills of his friend and GURU (Kishore Kumar
) the only problem in the way is Master ji (MEhmood) and this leads to
a fight for BINDU in which BHolas wins in the end . Where songs like "
ek chatur naar " meri pyari bindu " gave a new touch to comic songs
then songs like " Meri samne wali " and "Kehna hai' took melody to new
heights . A true classic and timeless comedy.
Andaz APna Apna (1994) a
manic ride with two useless dreamers from small towns Amar( amir) and
Prem(salman), they both want to marry a rich foreign return girl
Raveena ( raveena tandon) they both try to impress her and outdo each
other karishma plays ravina's frnd and there is Paresh Rawal palying
the double role of Teza Seth and Bajaj . Shakti Kapoor playing the
ultimate Crime <Mastrer GOGo . the movie is full of geek activities
salman khan saying "oyee ma" and Amir "Hai la " the movie is fun
ride absolutely brilliant.
Jaane Bhi do YAARON( 1983) Packed with some
of the best actors of Indian film industry many of them coming straight
from the drama school. One of the best Dark Comedy of Bollywood.
This one hits the system ,It is a satire with Vinod
(Naseeruddin Shah) and Sudhir (Ravi Vaswani) as photographers in search
of work.
They get an assignment from the editor of a magazine called
�Khabardar�. They witness a murder and are dragged into the corrupt
real estate deals with politicians and bureaucrats. THe "MAHabharat's
play" scene are some of the most hillarious moments on indian
silverscreen.and yeah SAtish Shah def playing the best dead body role.
CHACHI 420 (1998)
This is Indian style of doing things and for the first time an indian
movie outshined an Hollywood movie. AN adaptation of Robbie william;s
Mrs Doubtfire this movie includes had the brigade of actors like Kamal
hasan playin the desperate father( jayprakash) who in his efforts to
stop his family from fallign apart starts baby sittin his own daughter
as CHachi .. things go fine but then Seth Durga Prasad (Amrish Puri) falls in love with chachi and then Jay's land lord Hari Bhai Paresh Rawal also falls in for Chachi.In the course of time CHachi also developes an enemy his father-in-law�s secretary (Om Puri). then there is endless cofusion and comedy to roll you off ur seat.
Chupke Chupke (1975)Dr. Parimal Tripathi
(Dharamendra) is a Botany professor who falls in love with Archana (Sharmila
Tagore). She thinks the world of her brother-in-law or
�jijjaji� Raghav (Om Prakash) as she calls him, thinking that he is one of the smartest guys around.Parimal decides to take him on with his comic Hindi (as
jijjaji
is a stickler for purity of language), impersonating as a driver. The plot thickens when he ropes in his friends Sukumar (Amitabh Bachchan), Prashant (Asrani) and Archana�s brother (David). He totally perplexes the poor old �jijjaji� with unheard of
words and phrases. He throws a bombshell when he elopes with Archana leaving
jijjaji and her sister completely
shocked and helpless. Meanwhile Sukumar posing as Dr. Parimal Tripathi falls in
love with Prashant�s sister (Jaya Bhaduri) adding another dimension to
this funfest. The highpoint of this comic caper is the perfect timing that
Dharamendra and Om Prakash share making their scenes a treat to watch. The
comedy is not in your face or slapstick instead its situational and
witty.
Hera Pheri 2000 One
of the biggest surprise excep paresh rawal Both AKshau Kumar and suneil
shetty were not considered as comedians but this movie defied all
speculations. Priyadarshan made a movie full of commotion and enuff
slapstick humor. Shyam (Sunil Shetty) and Raju
(Akshay Kumar) are paying guests at the
home of a generous garage owner, Baburao (Paresh Rawal). All three are
broke and
dream of becoming millionaires. Raju hatches a plot of rescuing the
kidnapped
granddaughter of a rich businessman and keeping the ransom. Things get
amusingly
chaotic when they get stuck between the kidnappers, the businessman and
the
police. Om Puri and Asrani play interesting cameos in the film. BAburao
played by paresh rawal is one of the greatest character portrayed in
Bollywood.
MUNNA BHAI M.B.B.S. (2003 )Sanjay Dutt plays Murli Prasad Sharma or Munna, a local
bhai turned fake doctor. His parents live in a village and think that their son
is as upright and respectable as them. He has made them believe that he is a
doctor. When they visit him, his transition from a bhai to a doctor makes you
roll with laughter.
Munna decides tht he wil become a real doctor and tries to fulfill his
parent's dreams but the problem in the way to success is Dr.
Asthana (Boman Irani) is brilliant as the hyper
doctor who believes in �laughter therapy' he is the person who in the
first place exposed Munna's mockery to his father (Sunil Dutt).
Munna gets help from his whole gang including hsi best frnd CIRCUIT(
arshad warsi ). then there is also a love angle going on between MUNNA
and the Doctor SApna( GAuri ) Best part of the movie are the scenes of
Dr Astahan and Munna . " MAMU" catching its way after the movie
Tuesday, July 12, 2005
Terrace of A-4
Well today it is raining again and wat a lovely sight it is, so a
thougth came to my mind to write about one of the most cherished
possession by my wingies n tht is OUR TERRACE.
Night outs are an integral part of life@iit. You come in as a freshie n
at tht moment only SENIORS glorify about their regular night outs which
inludes MEGA MOVIE MARATHON or a game of footer taken too long or walk
to the lake side or jus CACK . The freshie is awestruck by listening to
these courageous deeds of his seniors is fascinated and decides tht he
won't remain an exception to this great tradition.
Same was the case with me and with few of my fellowmates .
Well first year went by n then we came to hostel 13 and here we found
our biggest possession and a venue to have an easy and smooth nightouts
apna very own TERRACE.
As it is obvious from the pics this palce is worth a visit .
Subzero people have been intelligent enuff to use its potential to its
fullest. Our first DAARU party was held here and since then we all have
come a long way the farewell treat of NATTU n yeah the daily afetr
dinner sutta joint,.
a breeze of cool air .....the bluriness of the white smoke n few
useless talks have now become an integral part of our daily routine.
In the last few months i have discovered a new potential of this place ..it is very effectiuve in getting over ur hangover.
Sorry guys gtg ...
current song :- paheli.
Wednesday, July 06, 2005
4 th of JULY ( ANshu's BIG NIGHT)
What you see above is a serious case of
HUMAR EMOTIONS MALFUNCTION. Yes, this guy is in love unfortunately
everytime he needs the boost up and morale support of HIGH QUALITY
liqour along with some of his helpful read bastard frnds to dispaly his
emotions tonite was just another nite.
Tonite these bastards were me and sandy. SO 4th of JULY wats so
great about it ??? AMERICAN independence day, no not at all the day
started as usual crap bunking my PT trip to ONGC :P. then there was
usual adrenaline rush of counter strike and the dullness of TIME's
material. today i got the funda of recording demos of CS( thnks to
shabby ) so it added a new dimension to the identity of KURT COBAIN(
yeah thts my screen name for CS).
TO SPICE THINGS UP ..... we missed dinner ( 5th day in a row ) so we
landed at our GURUDWARA ( Sujata Palace) my partners in crime were the
usual ones SANDY ANSHU n the surpirse element BHAIYA( kapil's elder
bro). Anshu though he had his dinner still accompained us (thnks to me
:P) sayin we will jsu sit n talk. But the moment he said those words
and i saw the light in his eyes i knew this guy is gonna drink his a$$
off tonite. When you say DAARU how can i miss the pleasure of feeling
close to GOD..:D??? SO now we started ordering RC(Royal challenge)
quarters and anshu started lighting his inner soul read
smoking.
Finally by the time we left SP ANSHU fell the victim of
EUPHORIA.Although we were on an ill mantained PULSAR of jangale on our
way back to the hostel but still at tht moment tht bike felt like
a CRUISER to me..
So we finally come to the hostel GUESS WAT there is BACHA TF team gang
partying in narbhakshis room PLAYIN NIRVANA ( don't ask abt the whole
discocgraphies wat they played later because just remembering those
songs shiver my spines ) to the great great ILA ARUN ( thnk
god i was not there at tht timebr>
<)
So while we were throwing and bashing each other ANSHU calles his love of life SHU&#$ .
NONE of you is aware of the affair of anshu n shu@## so instead of
boring u all with the BORING MUSHY MUSHY stuff i"ll give u the real
scoop.
ANSHU never saw this gal she is doin her studies in lucknow and jsut by
talking over the phone ANSHU fell in love with this gal ( yes my frnds
these kinda things do happen in real life) well strangely enuff this
gal also never met anshu and jsut saw his photograph and as it is
obviosu from the pic above how photogenic our ANSHU is the chances of
wooing this gal were next to impossible.( BTW don't go by the pic he is
HUNK 6feet tall fair n blah blah ) TO add to the credential of our MR
romeo he has this divine power of literally killing anyone yes
anyone jsut by his talks.
So once upon a time ( i guess a week ago) this dude got high and
proposed this female over the phone .....which is a great task
considering the fact she stays in lucknow and ANSHU has no internal
ties wiht MTNL its heavy on the pocket too. to give u all an idea about
this he spent 2k in the last 10-15 days for his phoen bills..:O...NOW
THAT I CALL A USELESS ROMANTIC ..:D( no offence )
SO well finally i dunno wat they talked about but it turned out tht at 12:55 am of th JULY she said I LOVE YOU to anshu
THTS IT no more details and stuff the pic wat you see above is taken at 1 AM yes 5 min after the big night ..
WELL after tonite ANSHU got the LOVE of his LIFE and we guys got yet
another reason to DRINK and CELEBRATE ..FAIR DEAL isn't it???
HUMAR EMOTIONS MALFUNCTION. Yes, this guy is in love unfortunately
everytime he needs the boost up and morale support of HIGH QUALITY
liqour along with some of his helpful read bastard frnds to dispaly his
emotions tonite was just another nite.
Tonite these bastards were me and sandy. SO 4th of JULY wats so
great about it ??? AMERICAN independence day, no not at all the day
started as usual crap bunking my PT trip to ONGC :P. then there was
usual adrenaline rush of counter strike and the dullness of TIME's
material. today i got the funda of recording demos of CS( thnks to
shabby ) so it added a new dimension to the identity of KURT COBAIN(
yeah thts my screen name for CS).
TO SPICE THINGS UP ..... we missed dinner ( 5th day in a row ) so we
landed at our GURUDWARA ( Sujata Palace) my partners in crime were the
usual ones SANDY ANSHU n the surpirse element BHAIYA( kapil's elder
bro). Anshu though he had his dinner still accompained us (thnks to me
:P) sayin we will jsu sit n talk. But the moment he said those words
and i saw the light in his eyes i knew this guy is gonna drink his a$$
off tonite. When you say DAARU how can i miss the pleasure of feeling
close to GOD..:D??? SO now we started ordering RC(Royal challenge)
quarters and anshu started lighting his inner soul read
smoking.
Finally by the time we left SP ANSHU fell the victim of
EUPHORIA.Although we were on an ill mantained PULSAR of jangale on our
way back to the hostel but still at tht moment tht bike felt like
a CRUISER to me..
So we finally come to the hostel GUESS WAT there is BACHA TF team gang
partying in narbhakshis room PLAYIN NIRVANA ( don't ask abt the whole
discocgraphies wat they played later because just remembering those
songs shiver my spines ) to the great great ILA ARUN ( thnk
god i was not there at tht timebr>
<)
So while we were throwing and bashing each other ANSHU calles his love of life SHU&#$ .
NONE of you is aware of the affair of anshu n shu@## so instead of
boring u all with the BORING MUSHY MUSHY stuff i"ll give u the real
scoop.
ANSHU never saw this gal she is doin her studies in lucknow and jsut by
talking over the phone ANSHU fell in love with this gal ( yes my frnds
these kinda things do happen in real life) well strangely enuff this
gal also never met anshu and jsut saw his photograph and as it is
obviosu from the pic above how photogenic our ANSHU is the chances of
wooing this gal were next to impossible.( BTW don't go by the pic he is
HUNK 6feet tall fair n blah blah ) TO add to the credential of our MR
romeo he has this divine power of literally killing anyone yes
anyone jsut by his talks.
So once upon a time ( i guess a week ago) this dude got high and
proposed this female over the phone .....which is a great task
considering the fact she stays in lucknow and ANSHU has no internal
ties wiht MTNL its heavy on the pocket too. to give u all an idea about
this he spent 2k in the last 10-15 days for his phoen bills..:O...NOW
THAT I CALL A USELESS ROMANTIC ..:D( no offence )
SO well finally i dunno wat they talked about but it turned out tht at 12:55 am of th JULY she said I LOVE YOU to anshu
THTS IT no more details and stuff the pic wat you see above is taken at 1 AM yes 5 min after the big night ..
WELL after tonite ANSHU got the LOVE of his LIFE and we guys got yet
another reason to DRINK and CELEBRATE ..FAIR DEAL isn't it???
Monday, July 04, 2005
3rd July
Now I m changing my mind ..instead of using my blogs just about myself let it be a place to express myself about the society i live in.
i just saw a debate on the Imrana rape case where a 26 year old woman, mother of 5 , was raped by her own father in Law n the village panchayat instead of punishing the culprit turned their fury to the victim herself. She was asked to leave the village and her marriage was abjured by the people who call themselves as preachers of sheriyat.
The question is not that this happened to a muslim woman and there is smthing wrong with the islamic law or smthing beacuse there have been cases where the HINDU panchayat asked the woman to marry the person who raped her and call it justice.
THe problem lies in the fact INDIA doesn't have a UNIFORM CIVIL LAW. In a country like india where religion is such a strong belief having a UNiform civil law could be a problem. BUT IS RAPE A CASE OF CIVIL ACTION?? No not at all, when it comes to marriages or inheritence etc having a religion based law is fine. BUt considering a heinious crime like rape under civil law and giving right to a panchayat who abides by some sheriyat laws is stupidity at its best.
The most disturbing thing what i find about this whole thing is that the whoel debate is about the woman no one is talking about that guy who raped her in the first place.In all this turmoil the basic need of punishing the cuprit is faded somewhere.
i just saw a debate on the Imrana rape case where a 26 year old woman, mother of 5 , was raped by her own father in Law n the village panchayat instead of punishing the culprit turned their fury to the victim herself. She was asked to leave the village and her marriage was abjured by the people who call themselves as preachers of sheriyat.
The question is not that this happened to a muslim woman and there is smthing wrong with the islamic law or smthing beacuse there have been cases where the HINDU panchayat asked the woman to marry the person who raped her and call it justice.
THe problem lies in the fact INDIA doesn't have a UNIFORM CIVIL LAW. In a country like india where religion is such a strong belief having a UNiform civil law could be a problem. BUT IS RAPE A CASE OF CIVIL ACTION?? No not at all, when it comes to marriages or inheritence etc having a religion based law is fine. BUt considering a heinious crime like rape under civil law and giving right to a panchayat who abides by some sheriyat laws is stupidity at its best.
The most disturbing thing what i find about this whole thing is that the whoel debate is about the woman no one is talking about that guy who raped her in the first place.In all this turmoil the basic need of punishing the cuprit is faded somewhere.
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